Pasquale: It is like a hologram. No matter what. Let’s assume there is an apple, only a hologram and if you cut any piece of that hologram off and develop it, you get the whole apple. You know that. Now if you get an ordinary photograph and you cut a piece off and if there’s only the finger there, that is all you are going to get, is the finger. Now in a hologram it is as I said, now God is that. No matter how much he divides himself or it divides itself, it is always God. You get it. That is the thinking you have to have, but God is the only one that can manifest itself and bring all the inner pieces that are not visible out. You got it. If it is an apple he can make that apple manifest itself and inside of the apple are the seeds and the flesh or the pulp and the skin and this that and the other thing. It is all in that hologram , but it is not observable unless it gets manifested. You got it. Tell that to your dad and see how he likes it. Let him look at that. That is real deep philosophy. If you get that you got it. Just understand it, leave it alone and it will grow on you like a flower comes out. God is a hologram, no matter how much it gives of itself it will never ever end and that is what we call the ego in us. That is what my friends said, the ego. You know we give it a bad connotation, but the ego in us is the alter ego, something that is altered and that is not the one I am speaking about. That belongs to the soul, the alter ego. That is like all these wise guys running around, but our true ego is the prime, it is the chief. Nothing can go beyond that, that’s it.
Haig: It is the expression of God in you. That is the expression of God in us, is the ego.
Pasquale: Well yeah, when it comes, it is not here yet.
Haig: So what do we have to do to get to that?
Pasquale: I told you. It will come automatically. It is seasonal, but what you have to do is to keep yourself as cleansed as possible to let it come.
Haig: What do we do to keep cleansed? Chiropractic!!!
Pasquale: That’s it. The tone….BINGO!!! Clean yourself up by tone. Laugh, that does it too, have fun and you shake when you laugh. Sing, that is good too and listening to good music, that will do it too. Maybe this goddamn rock-n-roll will do it too, but for me I can’t take it. Maybe for them kids that does it. It is alright for them, but it seems they get worse with the goddamn thing, they don’t get better. I like the old swing bands, big swing bands, nice sweet music. These poor kids out there they got nothing, they got nothing outside of drugs and then take more drugs and more drugs until they finally die very young.
Haig: Do you think they are trying to experience something? They are trying to break through and they just don’t know where to go. They don’t have an outlet.
Pasquale: This is what gives them AIDS, it isn’t so much sexual promiscuity. It is the overuse of drugs, that’s what does it. It breaks them down, brings them into a high frequency too fast. They get knocked out. They don’t take the 3 S’s Small Sequential Steps. Get it. They want to get there in a hurry. Also the guy that is bringing them up there he has to be careful too. You know I read quite a bit about yoga and a couple of big masters they went haywire too. They had to call some friend of theirs to help get them out of it.
Haig: So they are skipping the steps.
Pasquale: It is not necessary, they do not belong up there yet. This is Jacob’s Ladder and as I said yesterday in the chakras, you. Every one of those chakras is you and every one is a different level of awareness or consciousness, whatever you like, but if you go above your consciousness ehhhh.
Haig: So it takes that work of experience and cleaning out the junk to get to the next step.
Pasquale: But you gotta code yourself. Step by step by step by step and in between the steps there are a lot of small steps. Get it. That is why I don’t go for it and some people said to me don’t do it that way, just think of the ego up here. I don’t say anything. I don’t want to argue with this people. To me it is a better way to knock yourself out completely.
Haig: We got to get them each in tone with each other. So each chakra is the Cell-F Center.
Pasquale: Yeah. It is you in a different state of awareness or frequency or consciousness if you like. You got to build yourself going up there and that is what I’m doing and they even mentioned that in one of my readings with Jeanie Blackburn. I don’t know if you ever met her. She was Lou Corleto’s receptionist at one time. She was also a reader and he asked me get yourself a reading from her and she told me you take very small steps. I didn’t know what the hell she was talking about at that time. That was several years ago, but now I know.
Pasquale Haig Soul Center
Haig: So has it always been Cell-F Center? Has your practice always been Cell-F Center? Or has it had any other names in the past?
Pasquale: I never had a name until they gave me the word Cell-F Center.
Haig: They gave you the word Cell-F Center. Your spirits did.
Pasquale: Yeah and they told me how to spell it too. It’s not my invention.
Haig: What is the history of it?
Pasquale: The word Cell-F Center means. You saw that big thing that I have downstairs on the wall with the eye in the center in the auditorium. All the way down. Did you see it?
Haig: I looked at everything but I didn’t take anything in specifically.
Pasquale: Well that’s it, right in the center of that big cell.
Haig: Oh yeah I know what you are talking about now. So that big cell.
Pasquale: You are the center, you are the boss, but if you’re not there than the cell takes over.
Haig: The cell membrane like what Lipton was talking about.
Pasquale: Now you got it. Good for you. You know he says it is not the nucleus. You know that. Don’t you? He is in error, he is in error. Intelligence is all over, everything is an intelligence.
Haig: Everything is an intelligence.
Pasquale: All matter has intelligence. Matter and intelligence cannot be separated. The coarser the matter the duller the intelligence. It appears it is not even there, but it is there. It appears there is no intelligence there, but if you take even a piece of wood or anything and put it under a microscope you see all the vibrations in there. Very intelligent isn’t it, but it has no control, no center, no soul and not only a soul it needs also, well a soul would control it, but a soul is spring, summer, autumn, winter bingo off you go. This is why we are mortal.
Haig: I have two questions. So than Cell-F Center we have many centers, each cell has its own center.
Pasquale: Oh yeah, but you need the boss up there to control over.
Haig: You need the whole boss? Or is the boss up here controlling? So that’s what it is.
Pasquale: This is the center down here and all the way in the back there which they emphasize is between the eyes. It’s right back here and right there. The center is the organizer.
Haig: The organizer.
Pasquale: Puts things in order to a degree.
Haig: Was it just Pasquale Chiropractic before?
Pasquale: It just had my name the way I have down there, but Ellita had that sign made up. You with the Cell-F Center. She had it up and she said I want to keep your name there. I said go ahead.
Haig: There is a difference between seeking out wisdom. You seek out wisdom and not try and prove that you are right.
Pasquale: You want to know. I know when somebody is argumentative, I know. You remember what I said, you can’t win by knocking doors down. We’re speaking of the soul, you see it, but the soul is both male and female: one side is male and one side is female. The soul is like a heart divided. One side is male, one ventricle and the other ventricle and on the top is the atrium and the word atrium means light. That’s where the lord is going to be. You see it.
Haig: So for us to come back into power, to come back into control, we just have to lead by our brightest light. Just do what we do and keep doing it.
Pasquale: That’s it. You don’t have to think about trying to make it come, just understand it and try to understand it better everyday. Try to refine yourself of understanding it, but don’t try to do anything to make it happen, only understanding, you see. You know that commercial and a mind is an awful thing to lose or something.
Haig: A terrible thing to waste.
Pasquale: Or a big waste. Just leave it alone and it will grow. Know the truth and that’s the truth and the truth will make you free. Now if we found out what the hell the truth is. Clear of all impurities, see what we got. You go to a psychiatrist and ask him: what’s the truth? Christ, he’ll give you all kinds of bullshit. He won’t tell you what I’m telling you, ask him or a psychologist. Ask a priest. That’s when you have no sins. What’s a sin? See how simple we have it.
Haig: So, if we don’t have impurities. If we are going to be free of impurities and you say impurities are sin. Are we supposed to live our lives without experiencing life?
Pasquale: No, it isn’t a question of experiencing it. Now you will enjoy the fruits of your labor. Every code that you have ever worked for, now you can use it to have fun with it. Oh, you can have fun sure, but you are not going to hurt anybody.
Haig: So you’re saying something like Plato. Plato says not to use a man to a means to your own end. Not to use other people for yourself, taking advantage of others.
Pasquale: That’s right.
Haig: So you live pure. You give to people and you can enjoy your riches. Do you think we’re going to go back to an age where we are living more with the earth?
Pasquale: This is where we live; we’re not going to leave the earth. This is our planet. You know people want to go here, there and any other place. No! What happens is that we take experiences in from certain stars, now we can get into something different if you want to. Go ahead. Question.
Haig: Well, talking about different stars. We talked once about the North Star.
Pasquale: That’s right. That’s our leading star. Isn’t it?
Haig: I started thinking about for the months that you were gone, the way we lived. Think about the internet communication. The original internet was sailing ships and communication between different lands and all we had was a sextant and used the North Star and then we used the magnetism of the earth to guide ourselves. These two things were so important for human beings to exist. Without these two ingredients we would not have had communication to begin with, without a slower progression.
Pasquale: This is , you start at the bottom to get all of these, but once you have progressed and you are outside of this dimension now which will we go. You are not human anymore, you are Man. As a bird has its communication compass within it, not on the outside. Don’t let any of these screwballs tell you that a bird uses the stars. Christ, it could be cloudy as hell out there, it could be raining, they still come home to your coop. They got a compass inside of them.
Haig: So you say we are going to a different conversation about, we talk about the stars.
Pasquale: You know people say people from certain stars out there, constellations or whatever, they visit the earth. No! These are generations before us. They already have taken in the information from those stars or planets. The same as we have the North Star facing us now. That’s hitting us now and when it is hitting us now we take that information in and that information is as good if not better than the information NASA is getting with their; what do they call those things those rowboats that they send out there to get information to relay back to us? We take it in, we process it, and after we process it and now we become Man. Now we know what it is to be on that star. We are the star now.
Haig: So than can we transcend from here to there? Our planetary being is on earth and then we know what it is like to be anywhere we want to be.
Pasquale: Anything that is coded in us and if we haven’t coded the things before us. So what do we do? How do we know about the other planets? How do we know? They belong to other generations. Well, that’s not the way it works. Every soul gets connected as a computer and anytime I want anything from your computer, your soul, I just boom and I get it. You follow. And when you want something from me, boom you get it. But you are not permitted to come into my home. You are permitted to come into my house which is the soul, but you are not permitted to come into my home which is my atrium unless I invite you. You follow. That’s my castle. Got it. A man’s home is his castle. You don’t come in without permission.
Haig: So spiritually. Are there spirits just like us in these other places that want to spiritually come and visit here?
Pasquale: There is no such as there, here. Everything is together. I don’t know how to figure that one out yet. If you say there. What word do you got in there? T what.
Haig: Here. T here.
Pasquale: You see these are the things and I figure I am not going to work on it and one day it will come to me. You see this is how you do it. There are other things I have to know before I get that. That’s what it means.
Haig: Cause you told me I was asking you questions about the North Star and it wasn’t very clear on that. I spent a lot of time thinking about it. What you said was don’t worry about that out here. It is all here. Out there will come.
Pasquale: That may disappear completely because you read Revelations, it tells you all the stars fall. Now, do they really fall? Or Do they come out of our sight?
Haig: Or do they come more in our sight?
Pasquale: I mean out here.
Haig: What is the significance of the North Star? What is our main star?
Pasquale: Our main star right now is the North Star, the loadstone, as they call it. Magnetic stone. It’s a magic. We will produce the magic with that star. Once we become that star that’s our magic. I like to work things out for myself believe it or not. You know I like a little help here and there, but I like to work things out for myself. They probably say that’s the guy, he won’t bother us too much.
Pasquale Haig Concentric Rings
Haig: This is the center. You were talking about this picture.
Pasquale: Yeah that’s the one I was telling you about.
Haig: Who painted that? Oh! That’s made with like macrame.
Pasquale: See the center. See the concentric rings all over the place. Now all these philosophers were speaking of all these concentric rings, but keep going out, out, out, but we are going back in. You see it.
Haig: Refining and refining.
Pasquale: This is all refined now. All it is doing is going back in slowly but surely with our new frequencies and all these things have to be, you know. I don’t know. We have to go back slowly. It just can’t get in there right away for some reason. I don’t know why, but that’s the reason.